Help for the Home Gardener from the CCMG Help Desk
Client's Questions and Problems:
with some webbing as well as some “corky” bark. He also said they have “red ants” on the tree which bite when handled. The container is large, and consists of a mixture of native (clay) soil and amendments. He has poor drainage in his yard hence the need for container. Has plans to plant another variety (Zutano) so will have the A and B pollinators. Varieties are compatible and appropriate for his area. Client uses well water and is close to Discovery Bay and knows about their boron problem, but his well seems fine although he has not taken a recent water test.
CCMG Help Desk Initial Response:
Thank you for calling Master Gardeners with your Avocado problems. The e-mailed photos came through well. Based upon the information so far, we think the most likely cause of the brown areas on the leaves is sunburn and/or windburn. You may have noticed that the affected leaves are mostly on the top and outside of the plant, and there are many unaffected leaves. We have had a few really hot days in recent weeks (these questions and responses are in mid-September). You can provide some temporary shade using a light shade cloth or some other shade structure on hot afternoons - although hopefully we will not have too many more of those to come this year. Also, avocados are quite sensitive to wind, so if they are in a windy area some protection from wind might help. You mentioned that the tree is getting adequate water, and from the photos I did not see problems related to well water - although it may be helpful to get that tested if you see other plants in your garden developing problems. I did see some webbing on the leaves, but it does not seem to be widespread in the tree. I could not tell from the photo if there were insects present, but it could be spider mites, and if this insect presence is only in a small area of the tree, you can wipe them off or use a quick water spray. I am including some UC links which will give some more information on pests and on avocados in general. http://ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/GARDEN/FRUIT/avocados.html and http://ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7405.html
You also mentioned that you had a colony of 'red ants'. Without seeing these I cannot tell you what they are; red fire ants have been found in southern California, and I have not heard reports of them being in the Bay Area, but that does not mean you don't have them. What you are seeing could be red Spider Mites. Here is a link that might help-http://ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7487.html
If you would like a positive identification on these ants, you could bring a sample into the Agricultural Commissioner's office, of which there is a branch in Knightsen. This link gives their hours and contact information.
http://www.co.contra-costa.ca.us/1542/Agriculture-Weights-Measures
Finally, here are some further links to general avocado culture. The second one has some good information on growing in containers. http://ucanr.org/sites/gardenweb/files/29079.pdf
and http://uccemg.com/Edible_Plants/?ds=530&uid=127
I hope this is helpful, and that you will eventually grow some good avocados.
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CCMG Help Desk Follow-up Response:
After we spoke earlier today, I did some research and learned that avocados are very sensitive to high salt (chloride) and boron levels in irrigation water. Symptoms of chloride toxicity include chlorosis (yellowing) of leaves and necrosis (death) of the tips and margins (edges) of leaves. Symptoms are usually more severe on the older leaves. Boron toxicity causes dark, necrotic areas along the edges of leaves.
Here is a University of California photo that shows how boron toxicity appears on an avocado (left). The right photo shows chloride toxicity effects on an avocado.
The damage on the leaves in these photos look similar to those in the photos you sent previously, so it does seem possible that high levels of salt or boron in the irrigation water could be causing the leaf problems you are seeing on the tree. It is probably worthwhile for you to have the water tested for the well you are using to irrigate the tree. There is the possibility that the drought, or increased (or decreased) pumping of other nearby wells, or changed irrigation practices have affected the quality of your well water.
A list of commercial laboratories that perform water testing can be found at this link on the CCMG web page (http://ccmg.ucanr.edu/files/77177.pdf). You will want to have the water tested for irrigation suitability. It is sometimes hard to navigate the websites for the testing labs and to find a description of the services offered and the charges for the testing they can perform. You might find it easier to call the labs to get the information you need. Be sure to call several before you decide which one to use since the fees charged seem to vary quite a bit. I found a couple that charge only about $75 for the irrigation water test, but some charge twice that much.
Below is an excerpt from tables from the University of California publication entitled "Abiotic Disorders of Landscape Plants" (the original reference document's Table of Contents is at http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/T0234E/T0234E00.htm#TOC) that you might find helpful in understanding the results of your well water test. The data from the tables show maximum levels of salts (chloride) and boron in irrigation water that are generally considered safe. Because the avocado is quite sensitive to boron and salts, any amounts in your well water that are higher than the levels shown below n the table as “generally safe” could cause problems for the tree. If you have the water tested and would like some assistance in interpreting the results, you are welcome to contact us for help.
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Relative Boron Tolerance of Avocadoes: Sensitive @ 0.5 - 0.75 mg/l
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Maximum Permissible Chloride Without Avocado Leaf Injury from Different Rootstock
Root Stock Root Zone (Cle) (me/l) Irrigation Water (Clw) (me/l)
West Indian 7.5 5.0
Guatemalan 6.0 4.0
Mexican 5.0 3.3
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On a different topic, I looked again at the photos showing the rough, “corky” areas on the bark of the tree. It does look somewhat unusual, but I couldn't identify any likely causes. When I tried to enlarge the photo to look closer at the corky areas, the photo became blurry. If you want us to investigate further, perhaps you could send us a “close-up” photo. Also, one possibility that occurred to me is that it might be sun scald. You might want to check to determine whether the side of the tree that receives the most direct sunlight shows more of the rough corky areas as compared to more shaded areas. If the answer is “yes”, it could point to sun scald.
Hope you find this additional information to be helpful. Feel free to call us again if you have additional questions.
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Contra Costa Master Gardeners' Help Desk
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We can also be reached via telephone: (925) 646-6586, email: ccmg@ucanr.edu, and we are on the web at http://ccmg.ucanr.edu/
Help for the Home Gardener from the Contra Costa Master Gardener Help Desk
Client's Problem:
CCMG Help Desk Response:
Thank you for contacting the Contra Costa Master Gardeners with your pomegranate question.
Although pomegranates are known to be drought resistant, they do require even moisture during the growing season to set fruit properly. Our historic drought over the past 3 years has affected many plants and trees ability to cope. How are you irrigating your tree? Are you on drip or sprinkler? Are you watering throughout the root zone of the tree or only close to the trunk? Is the rest of your yard that is close by the tree irrigated? Also, does the tree receive at least 6 hours of sun or have other trees shaded out your pomegranate over the years since it was planted? Because of the drought, the soil is very depleted of moisture, even clay soils which retain water for much longer than other soil types are often quite depleted.
Since you mentioned that the tree drops its flowers in the spring there most likely is some cause for the flowers dropping at that time. Besides wind and/or frost, the flower drop could be moisture stress because of the lack of rain earlier. Checking the moisture level of your soil at flowering time would be beneficial. Using a soil probe to check the moisture or just digging down 6 to 12 inches and checking how moist the soil is by hand are the best methods. The following website will explain how to check moisture content by look and feel. http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/county/training/inspprcd/handouts/soil_moist_feel_test.pdf
Mulching your tree will also help with moisture issues. Placing 2 to 4 inches of mulch throughout the root zone of your tree is appropriate, but also provide 12" of clearance around the trunk.
You mentioned that the tree was sending out lots of branches from the lower trunk. Are these suckers coming up from the root zone or actual branches coming off the main trunk?. Does your tree have one central trunk or many trunks coming up from the ground? If the tree is spending a lot of energy making vegetative growth it may not have enough left over to spend on fruit. Removal of water sprouts and/or branches below the bud graft (if any) is also recommended. See the links below for more information on this.
You also mentioned that your tree is 30-40 years old. Some varieties of pomegranate decline after 15 to 20 years of production, although others can live for 100+ years. Most slow down production in the 20-25 year range.
It appears that it may be several reasons for your lack of fruit production. Drought conditions, lack of irrigation and age of the tree being the most likely.
For more information on Pomegranate care please refer to the following websites, including an online book on pomegranate care.
http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/GARDEN/PLANTS/pomegranate.html
http://ucanr.edu/sites/Pomegranates/files/164443.pdf
Hope that information helps you. Please feel free to ask more questions if need be. Best of luck with your pomegranate tree.
Contra Costa Master Gardeners Help Desk
Editor's Note: The Contra Costa Master Gardener Help Desk is available year-round to answer your gardening questions. Except for a few holidays, we're open every week, Monday through Thursday from 9:00 am to Noon at 75 Santa Barbara Road, 2d Floor, Pleasant Hill, CA 94523.
We can also be reached via telephone: (925) 646-6586, email: ccmg@ucanr.edu, and we are on the web at http://ccmg.ucanr.edu/
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- Author: MaryJo Smith
Having lived most of my life in the Pacific Northwest, my frame of reference for the gardening season was this: in the spring, gardens were planted, then from May until September, things would grow, berries were picked, various crops were harvested, apples and pears ripened, pumpkins and other gourds were ready for Halloween picking, and then it was done. The gardens were shut down and left fallow for the winter. It was a very finite time, and unless someone was that rare warrior gardener willing to take on cold frames, ice and snow, and freezing temperatures, gardening ceased until the spring, when the cycle would begin again. Once the weather turned in early October, residents hunkered down to eight months of cold, wet and rainy weather (27 to 48° F, and 78.63 inches of rain, give or take a tenth of an inch).
Contrast that against Contra Costa's winters of coolish days sandwiched between cool mornings and crisp evenings. Today's temperature is a high/low of 65°/46° F. For some of us that live here, its feeling a bit nippy and we want to wrap up and hunker down inside like our Oregon counterparts (to a Portlander, though, 65° is considered balmy, and a great excuse to wear shorts; its not unusual to see Portlanders walking around with shorts, boots and a down vest in the winter).
Although it's understandable to want to hunker down and wait until early spring to begin the garden, we have perfect weather for growing cool season crops. In many ways, a cool season garden is easier to tend to than a warm season garden because:
- There are fewer insects to contend with;
- Watering needs are much lower this time of year; and
- The plants can withstand light to hard frost and temperatures down to 28° F.
My garden currently contains Romanesco, broccoli raab, and cauliflower. I grew them successfully last year, along with some spinach and lettuce varieties, and I am looking forward to enjoying them again this year.
The Romanesco is a vegetable that I hadn't heard of until last year, and I am enthralled by it. It's not only a delicious-tasting vegetable, but also a beautiful work of art, with its vivid lime green color and perfectly spiraled fractals. It is known as either Romanesque Cauliflower or Romanesco Broccoli, and is of the Brassica oleraceaspecies.
If you haven't tried a Romanesco yet, here is a recipe for Broccoli Romanesco with Sage Browned Butter for you to try, hoping that once you taste it, you'll want to grow it.
Romanesco starts are available at local nurseries. Our Garden in Walnut Creek offered Romanesco veggie starts for sale this year before the end of the season. Look for them again next year.
Other plants that do well in the winter/cool season garden are:
Light Frost Hardy (as low as 32° F). Artichokes, beets, carrots, cauliflower, celery, chinese cabbage, endive, lettuce, parsnips, peas, swiss chard, escarole, arugula, bok choy, mache, and radicchio.
Hard Frost Hardy (as low as 28° F). Broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, collards, kale, kohlrabi, mustard, onions, parsley, peas, radishes, spinach, turnips, leeks, and sorrel.
Help for the Home Gardener from the Contra Costa Master Gardener Help Desk
Client's Problem and Questions:
Client called (early September) and left a phone message that the her community garden colleague's tomatoes, although now 4 feet tall, set some fruit, but that the plant had suddenly started to turn yellow and appears that the plants won't surive. CCMG Help Desk responded with both a phone call and an email.
CCMG Help Desk Response:
As I mentioned in the phone message that I left for you this morning, the information in your phone message about the tomato problem your community garden colleague has experienced wasn't sufficiently detailed to allow us to diagnose the problem. You mentioned that the tomato had grown about four feet tall and had set some fruit, but that the leaves on the plant suddenly started turning yellow and it now appears that the plant won't survive.
Yellow leaves on tomatoes is associated with many different problems, including lack of nutrients, excess salts in the soil or in irrigation water, toxicity in the soil from nearby walnut trees, and many different plant diseases. You report that the plant had been growing well and producing fruit and declined very rapidly leads me to suspect that the cause may have been a vascular wilt disease.
There is nothing that can be done for plants that have Verticillium or Fusarium wilts. Plants that die should be removed and destroyed. Put the diseased plant refuse in the garbage. Don't compost it since doing so could contaminate the compost with the fungal spores. Crop rotation is of limited value as the vascular wilt fungi may survive in the soil for several years.
You can learn more about Verticillium and Fusarium wilts at these websites: http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/r783100911.html and http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/r783101011.html.
One other word of caution about something you mentioned in your phone message. You indicated that you are using free wood chip mulch from a tree service company in your community garden plot. You said that your plants are growing well and look beautiful, but you didn't mention whether you are growing vegetables or ornamental plants. We don't recommend the use of wood chip mulch in vegetable gardens. Using such mulches for vegetables leads to two different problems. One is that wood chips, if dug in, and as they haven't been fully decomposed, will rob much of the nitrogen from the soils. This depletion of a critical nutrient can affect some ornamentals. It is particularly a challenge for heavy feeders such as tomatoes. If your colleague was using wood chips as compost for her tomatoes, it's possible that one of the problems for her tomatoes was a lack of nitrogen which would also lead to yellowing of the leaves.
The other problem with using wood chip mulch in vegetable gardens is that such gardens need to be replanted after each growing season. The wood chips really get in the way when you're trying to prepare the planting beds, add compost, etc. It is not a good idea to simply work them into the soil since they will continue to decompose, using up the available nitrogen in the process.
A better mulch to use for vegetable gardens would be weed free straw or dried leaves.
Hope that this information is helpful to you and your colleague.
Contra Costa Master Gardeners Help Desk
Editor's Note: The Contra Costa Master Gardener Help Desk is available year-round to answer your gardening questions. Except for a few holidays, we're open every week, Monday through Thursday from 9:00 am to Noon at 75 Santa Barbara Road, 2d Floor, Pleasant Hill, CA 94523.
We can also be reached via telephone: (925) 646-6586, email: ccmg@ucanr.edu, and we are on the web at http://ccmg.ucanr.edu/
Help for the Home Gardener from the Contra Costa Master Gardener Help Desk
Client's Question and Problem:
CCMG Help Desk's Response:
I'm writing to respond to the questions that you left in your Help Desk phone message. I understand that you are growing two tomato plants in containers as well as some peppers. You mentioned that the tomatoes have produced fruit, but most of it is still very green (as of early September). You asked whether there is something you can do to speed up the ripening process.
You probably won't be able to speed up the ripening of the tomatoes. The timing of getting ripe tomatoes depends both on when you started the tomatoes and on the variety you are growing. In my own garden, I planted eight different heirloom varieties this year. Two of them are in pots. I planted seedlings from four inch pots in early April. Most of the tomato varieties starting giving me quite a few ripe tomatoes by late July. However, one of them only produced an occasional ripe tomato until about a week ago, when I started being able to harvest three or four ripe tomatoes per day. The two tomatoes I have growing in containers are likewise producing ripe tomatoes at different rates. One has produced many ripe tomatoes and only a few green ones remain on the plant currently. The other was much slower to start producing ripe tomatoes. I've picked quite a few of them, but it still has lots of green tomatoes which I know will continue to ripen over time.
So my advice is just continue to be patient. For earlier tomatoes next year, you could pick a variety that produces early fruit. Or, if the weather cooperates, you might be able to plant your containers somewhat earlier next year. (I generally wait for night time temperatures to regularly reach 50 or above before planting. That target temperature occurred somewhat earlier this year than it does in many years.)
As for your question as to why your pepper is producing green peppers when the variety is supposed to be red, again the answer is that you'll just need to be patient and wait a while longer. All pepper varieties start as green peppers. With time, varieties that produce other colors will begin to ripen and change color. It sometimes takes several weeks after the green peppers have developed to their full size before you will start seeing a color change.
Both peppers and tomatoes can easily be sunburned. The sunburned area turns a light brownish color. It's still fine to eat the fruits, but you generally have to cut out the sunburn. To prevent your green tomatoes and peppers from getting sunburned, try to be sure that the developing fruit has some leaf cover. If not, you can also erect some type of sunshade to keep the sun from scorching the fruit.
Finally, as we approach fall and cooler temperatures, you may find that the ripening process slows. I generally leave my tomatoes in the garden if they still have green fruit until the night-time temperatures start to dip into the 40's. Tomatoes are quire cold sensitive so the plants will start dying when the weather cools. At that point, I harvest all the green tomatoes and put them on my kitchen counter. They will continue to ripen there. The fruit that ripens that way isn't as wonderful as a vine-ripened fruit, but it's still better than what you can buy in the grocery store. Unfortunately, peppers won't change color after you harvest them, but the green colored peppers can be just as tasty as those that have taken on their ripe color.
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A post script...
I hadn't realized from your phone message that the main question you have is “Why has the ripening of the tomatoes slowed down so much from what it was in prior years?” Thanks for clarifying.
Here are a couple of possible causes.
- A key resource that tomatoes need for ripening is plenty of leaf surface for photosynthesis. Often by late summer, some of the leaves on the tomato have started to dry up and wither and are no longer helping to nourish the plant. The plant is less vigorous than it was earlier in the season so it takes longer for the green tomatoes to ripen.
- High temperatures are also a major cause of slow ripening. The tomato plant produces several compounds that are needed for tomato ripening. When the air temperature rises above 85 degrees, tomatoes stop making carotene and lycopene pigments, two of the most important components in the ripening process. We have had some recent hot weather spells which are probably affecting your tomatoes in this manner.
- Finally, soil temperatures are also important. For optimal growth, tomatoes need soil temperatures that are less than 80 degrees. Hot air temperatures raise the soil temperature. Containers may be particularly vulnerable to soil temperature rise if they sit in the hot afternoon sun. Mulching can help keep soil temperatures lower. Also, if your tomatoes are hit by afternoon sunshine, you might consider erecting some shade barriers to keep the sun off the containers.
If you've run out of patience with slow ripening tomatoes, one thing you can do to speed up ripening is to remove some of the green tomatoes. Then the tomato plant can put all its energy into ripening the tomatoes that remain on the plant. You can ripen the green tomatoes you remove on your kitchen counter. As I responded earlier, they won't be as yummy as the ones that ripen on the vine, but they're still better than store bought tomatoes.
As a final caution, don't be tempted to fertilize the tomato plant thinking it will speed up production. Fertilizing now will probably just cause the tomato to go into a vegetative growth mode that is too late in the season to be helpful.
Hope the above explanations clarify what is occurring. You're welcome to contact us with any additional questions.
Contra Costa Master Gardeners Help Desk
Editor's Note: The Contra Costa Master Gardener Help Desk is available year-round to answer your gardening questions. Except for a few holidays, we're open every week, Monday through Thursday from 9:00 am to Noon at 75 Santa Barbara Road, 2d Floor, Pleasant Hill, CA 94523.
We can also be reached via telephone: (925) 646-6586, email: ccmg@ucanr.edu, and we are on the web at http://ccmg.ucanr.edu/